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Originally Posted by AZ Scott
This is the "apples and oranges" Dezmo was talking about. In the air, everything changes. When motocrossers get crossed up in the air, that's absolutely the gyro effect at work.
However, it has nothing whatsoever to do with a bike on the ground leaning into a turn. When was the last time you saw a superbike going through a turn upside down (on purpose)?
You can pretend that motorcycles have their own set of physics at work, but the fact is, a 30 year old bicycle and a 180mph superbike do in fact use the same basic principles to go around a corner. Believe it or don't.
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I know the physics is the same, I was trying to condense what happens when you steer down into some simple description and had to give up and post the picture instead (I dont' have the bunny with a pancake on it's head).
The explanation is 10 pages long, and still leaves you scratching your head. At least when you're in the air we don't have to talk about tire slip.
What I really don't know is what we're all arguing about here.
Gyro good or bad?
Turn then lean, or lean then turn?
Backwards spinning brakes cool or junk?